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[twincactus]

Yes, her husband should ask what is needed, because every place is different ..... not everyone/place may only ask for a US passport.

I needed my birth certificate as well as my passport. 

and the single status .....

Of course, then you can go somewhere that will take what you've got OR pay extra money and that usually works. Surely you guys know how things work down there. Everything has a price - everything.

-Tim

[D-mo]

Yes, her husband should ask what is needed, because every place is different ..... not everyone/place may only ask for a US passport.

I needed my birth certificate as well as my passport. 

and the single status .....

Of course, then you can go somewhere that will take what you've got OR pay extra money and that usually works. Surely you guys know how things work down there. Everything has a price - everything.

-Tim

Absolutely NO doubt about that.

[Talldrink]

Ok guys, I called the fiscalia of my local town directly (BTW – I HATE DOING ANYTHING DEALING WITH THE GOVERNMENT THERE!!)     

I will try to touch on all that has been asked/stated/wondered…

Here is the background of my dilemma:
I am getting married in MY town – not his. I didn’t ask him to go in person because he lives about an hour away. I just decided to call directly because it is cheaper to just call than to have him waste his entire day, miss work to just ask some general questions.

My biggest issue is that I don’t have a cedula and I don’t have my birth certificate to get one. I am trying to avoid having to do all this running around with getting my birth certificate and a cedula when I go next week – which is why I posted the question.

Here are the answers:

I can get married as an ‘American’ – I will need my birth certificate and Divorce Decree to be translated, legalized and register both in the Dominican Embassy here.  The marriage certificate will cost me $8,000 pesos if I go this route.

If I get my cedula – I can get married as a ‘Dominicana’ in which case I still need the Divorce Decree to be translated, legalized and registered in the Dominican Embassy. This route will cost me $3,000 for the marriage certificate.

Since I will need to get a birth certificate in either instance, I think I will apply for a cedula anyway.

Tim, can you ask The Chief (of your choice) if I REALLLLLY need to go to the Embassy to have these items registered? I assume that I can get my Divorce Decree translated and legalized all in one place (gotta get to those FAQs here ASAP) and I will get a birth certificate copy when I go next week.

I have never been to the Dominican Embassy here or the American Embassy in DR. Not sure if I want to wait and go in DR or take a day off work and just go to the one NYC for the translation and legalization piece of this debacle. For the people who have gone to both, any suggestions on which one is the best one to go to get this done?

Thanks again guys.

[angelica]

Talldrink, I think you are going around in circles. If Tim asks, and receives an answer, that answer may also not necessarily be the only answer.

My experience was this. I married in a home with a judge in Santiago. When I called the Dominican consulate in Miami to ask what I needed, they first asked where I was getting married, and then told me what was required. Same as you, get a single status from here, birth. cert. and divorce. Then have to have it legalized and translated at the consulate. ** Each document legalized was going to cost $70 and that is not including the translation ***

When I told my husband what I needed to do, he told me not to do anything, that the judge only needs my passport or birth certificate (still marring in Santiago).   We went to the lawyer THERE (notary) she typed a single status for me (included info. from my BC), and one for my husband, took a copy of my passport, and done (1 hour)........ I do not know what it cost, but I can assure you, not what it was going to cost me at the consulate. Then, on Saturday we got married, few days later got the marriage certificate.

(I did however, go to the county that I live to obtain the single status, just in case I would have needed it when I was there.)


Just sharing my experience .....

[twincactus]

Talldrink, I think you are going around in circles. If Tim asks, and receives an answer, that answer may also not necessarily be the only answer.

My experience was this. I married in a home with a judge in Santiago. When I called the Dominican consulate to ask what I needed, they first asked where I was getting married, and then told me what was required. Same as you, get a single status from here, birth. cert. and divorce. Then have to have it legalized and translated at the consulate. ** Each document legalized was going to cost $70 and that is not including the translation ***

When I told my husband what I needed to do, not to do anything, and the judge only needs my passport or birth certificate (still marring in Santiago).   We went to the lawyer THERE (notary) she typed a single status for me, and one for my husband, took a copy of my passport, and done (1 hour)........ I do not know what it cost, but I can assure you, not what it was going to cost me at the consulate. Then, on Saturday we got married, few days later got the marriage certificate.

(I did however, go to the county that I live to obtain the single status, just in case I would have needed it when I was there.)


Just sharing my experience .....

Talldrink, Angelica is RIGHT ON THE MONEY here. We paid like $2500RD to get married. I needed my SSL translated and legalized at the Dominican Embassy. I got it done in San Francisco (US) BUT it would have been way cheaper to do it there in the DR. The SSL is ALL that I got done at the Embassy. I didn't even need my divorce decree because I already had the SSL BUT that was MY judge and yours could be different. You need to speak directly to the person who is marrying you, and don't let them give you any shit, it doe NOT matter whether you get married as an "American" or Dominican, that is all up to the judge officiating the ceremony. This is why you are getting so many different answers because with the right judge and the right amount of cash, you can get married with some documents missing. The only one I know for sure you can't go without will be your US passport IF you don't have your Dominican BC or cedula. You don't have to get ANYTHING done at the US embassy so me asking won't do any good.I know you want a good solid answer but unfortunately unless you speak directly to the judge marrying you, you won't get one.

You say this is in your town. Do you know who you are going to get to marry you? Is your family there and can they recommend someone that they know? My wife's family knew our judge and we had no problems, but she set all this stuff up for me. I didn't know shit at the time.

-Tim

[May]

I agree with everyone here.  Before we got married hubby went to find out what I needed from here and then when I got there with what they wanted it was not taken.  They prefer when things are done in DR, speak to the judge marrying you and they will help you.

[angelica]

*NOTE*
I edited my post to include my birth certificate,  because, the lawyer (notary) did use the info from my birth certificate when typing my single status letter.

 ..... just trying to be as specific for you as I can in the details.

[angelica]

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 You don't have to get ANYTHING done at the US embassy so me asking won't do any good.I know you want a good solid answer but unfortunately unless you speak directly to the judge marrying you, you won't get one.


-Tim
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This is exactly the truth ......

[Talldrink]

The only reason why I want to make sure I do it right is so that when we go through the CR1 process we have no additional problems or missing steps...

Right now I am getting a copy of my BC in town (through a friend - my mom gave him all my details to find it). So when I go next week I'll go pick it up. I'll apply for the cedula just to have it when I go back in August.

I am also placing some calls to find out who the judge will be through a family friend that is a lawyer in my town. I will speak to her about the SSL vs my current US divorce decree. I assume it will be easiest to have her type up an SSL letter for me once I am there rather than to have the divorce decree translated. But I'll ask...

Im so glad I dont have to deal with going to the Embassy tho!

[D-mo]

OK Dorie.... errr I mean TallDrink  Just kidding! But really, it's almost de'javu!!!


You are making this WAAAAY harder than it has to be! If you have a SSL you don't need a divorce decree. If you have a US passport, you don't need a cedula or a Dominican BC. Your best bet would be to get the SSL. IN DR ( RD $500  max...and no need for translation)! Pay the money that the judge says to pay and get married RD $3000, 6000, 8000.... whatever, it will still be cheaper than all the mumbo jumbo you are trying to do!

There IS a Legal process to marriage in DR, but NO ONE follows legal process to the letter in DR... if it all!

LATER, if you REALLY want your Dominican BC & Cedula, just take a day trip to Santiago or Santo Domingo.  You can get your BC (legalized even)..AND your Cedula in the SAME OFFICE. Take a number for your BC, then go take a number for your cedula. Sit down in a chair and wait for the number for BC Give your info and state which format you want (and purchase 2 copies)! Go sit in a chair again and wait for 10 minutes... go get your proof copy when they call you and take it to the Legalization window, give them the proof copy and pay for two legalized BC copies.... go sit down in a chair for 15 minutes. They will call your name and give you your freshly printed legalized BCs. THEN, walk 10 whole feet over to the Cedula window and give them 1 copy of your BC (you won't get that one back) and tell them you want your cedula. Pay for it, put the other copy of your BC in your purse for safe keeping and sit down and wait for them to call you for Cedula photo. Sit in the chair again for another 20 minutes and they will call you to come sign for and pick up your freshly printed cedula...... 

 But all this is ONLY if you still want this stuff after you get married.

[Talldrink]

D-Mo - not sure if you actually read my very last post cause you said way too much!!

In short:
Someone (else) is gettig my BC for me.
As advised, I am finding out who the judge will be so that I can talk to him directly when I go next week.
I am going to ask my lawyer friend to type the SSL letter up for me (rather than going with the divorce decree).

This is what I wrote earlier today, Where did I confuse you after my last reply??

 

[D-mo]

D-Mo - not sure if you actually read my very last post cause you said way too much!!

In short:
Someone (else) is gettig my BC for me.
As advised, I am finding out who the judge will be so that I can talk to him directly when I go next week.
I am going to ask my lawyer friend to type the SSL letter up for me (rather than going with the divorce decree).

This is what I wrote earlier today, Where did I confuse you after my last reply??

 

I wasn't foncused by what you wrote.......I read it completely and understood it, I was just tellin ya that you don't need your Dominican BC and/or Cedula to get married.... IF YOU HAVE A US PASSPORT. I was assuming that your laywer friend is in the US and not in DR, in hich case it owuld need to be legalized and translated for use HERE..... You can get that same SSL here in DR, no need for translation in about 30 minutes time.  The last part I wrote for ya just in case you just want to have the BC and Cedula when you don't have to be in a rush.

Does that clear things up?

[twincactus]

Since you are the petitioner, you also will not need your BC at the interview or anywhere else in the process, but instead, you will need either your naturalization certificate OR your US passport. What D-mo is trying to say is that you don't actually need your BC and especially your cedula for ANY of this. You could conceivably get married and do the CR-1 without ever getting any of these docs.

-Tim

[SomeGuy4186]

when i got married, they asked for my birth certificate but i didnt want to give up my only copy so i talked to the judge and he a copy of my passport. the day after we were married they got a surprise visit from some auditors who were makig sure the new JCE in santiago was getting their documents right. the judge called me personally and told me he needed my birth certificate ASAP before they looked through the files that had been done throughout the previous week. luckily i had mine on me.

more proof that they don't follow their own rules. according to law they're supposed to get a copy of birth certificate no matter what but most of them don't care(unless their job is on the line, lol)

[Talldrink]

EVERYONE that my boyfriend asked about this and EVERYONE else that I have asked said that I do need my BC. I was also told by the people in my Town Hall (all 3 that got on the phone) and the lawyer (in DR) that I needed my BC - This is why i am having someone getting a copy of it for me in DR now.

If I am not asked for it or dont use it, thats OK cause I actually dont like the fact that I dont have one on hand as it is - so it wont hurt to get it and have it with me. So this is a playing it safe move if anything.

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